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BUMMER OUT OF VEGAS... 12/10/2007 at 09:44 AM

Guys:

Goddamit did I want Hatton to win that fight. Mayweather is unquestionably skilled but
his bullsh*t tactic of 'hit-hold, hit-hold' is the death of the sport. I swear to God, the guy
has yet to be challenged and show us his true heart. Guys like Duran and Hagler and Leonard
and Hearns used to just go balls-to-wall and turn their souls inside out in that ring. We're now
at a point in the fight game where a KO is the only sure line to victory and every fighter now seems
to have mastered the art of 'out-pointing' his opponent. This was one of those rare ones where a Mayweather left hook ended Hatton's night early. Still, in my mind, Floyd Mayweather has never been in a war and that's what I'd love to see. I'm really doing my best not to take anything away from the guy
because he's 39-0 and I can't see anybody out there that can beat him...but, I just don't buy it.

I think a Hatton/Mayweather rematch may yield a different result because Hatton looks like a guy who won't get beat twice but that KO makes the prospect of them lacing it up again, seem remote.

Weird guest at the crib the other night. Harvey Weinstein, whom I had never met, showed up
to watch the fight at my undersized little crash pad in Brentwood. He was as big a beer drinking
Hatton booster as the rest of us, so we all had a blast. A lot of barbecue got eaten, various illegal odors filled my home and the rain claimed a few casualties by way of bump and bruise as both the drunk and the stoned attempted to cross my patio which is notoriously slick in wet weather.

In all, it was a good night. I just wished Hatton had landed one good shot...a single, conscious-altering blow that pinholes your whole world and wakes up every last bit of blood in your body. Then we would've seem some real fire, instead of the grappling match with the occasional punch peppered in that typified that fight.


JC

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  Posted by: ursus 12/10/2007 at 09:40 AM

Do you box at all Joe? In the ring is a unique experience, even just sparring. Knowing what you need to do and your body not cooperating is a frustrating thing. Missing the timing that you can read, but just can't get there, or slipping the SAME way out of instinct to get popped yet again. I can only immagine a pro fight.

Man... I gotta get to the gym.
-ursus-

  Posted by: JeffreyWright 12/10/2007 at 09:48 AM

At least it went 10. Always bullsh.t (IMO) when people pay cash to see something that ends in the 3rd. ;)

Sounds like fun.

Weinstein? That does seem odd. But I guess, hey, when's the last time the Weinsteins did something that wasn't? ahah

Have a good one Joe,

JW

  Posted by: SM 12/10/2007 at 09:50 AM

Mr. Carnahan - I had a little get together of my own for the fight. Minus the Harvey Weinsteins, but including the barbecue, odors, some bottles of tequila, and some good lifelong friends. And talk about slippin, we got a few feet of snow here and that didn't do any favors during anybodys exit; even Sunday at 7am.
There was a long talk about the new style of fighting, the grab and hold method. You refer to it as the 'hit-hold'. We came up with an answer. Every time one of these young boxers sees the greats and their slowed speech and general slowness they realize that could be them someday. So boxing changed from a fight to some kind of chess match power struggle.
In my opinion, great fight night overall. Sure turns up the volume on a saturday night.

  Posted by: Hooper 12/10/2007 at 10:21 AM

Couldn't agree with you more about Mayweather's style. It's the boxing equivalent of the neutral ice trap in hockey. It's extremely effective but damn if it isn't ugly to watch. And just as the lack of offense in hockey helped to almost kill the sport so will Mayweather's style.

Also, next time I watch a boxing match, I hope I don't notice the ref like Saturday. Cortez was HORRIBLE! If he really wanted to stop the clutching and grabbing then penalize them and it would have stopped. When you keep warning them but never follow through on the threats they just keep at it and we get too much Joe Cortez.

  Posted by: Doubler 12/10/2007 at 10:53 AM

Disappointing result, but at least Mayweather didn't kill Hatton in the third round.

Hopefully I'll get to the Hatton/Del La Hoya fight that they're talking about doing next year in Wembley. Any of you guys want to come over, I'll glady put you up. First dibs to JC though!

Also, would love to see Calzaghe/Hopkins. Heard that the weigh-in on Friday was a bit heated between them.

So, Weinstein just turned up? Was he drunk before he got there? Not the kind of thing you do, just turn up at somebody's house who you've never met before and watch boxing with them. Did anything get discussed between you two between the rounds?

  Posted by: Michael 12/10/2007 at 11:00 AM

Man was I pulling for Hatton, but it just didn't happen. Ricky couldn't seem to get a solid hit in. Still, it was one hell of a down and dirty fight. It was ugly, but it was fun to watch. I'm glad that Floyd actually woke up a little, instead of just playing straight defense like he usually does. It was certainly more entertaining than the Delahoya snooze-fest.

I really hope Ricky can come back from this and get some more great fights. One loss on your record isn't that bad when that loss is to the best boxer in the world.

  Posted by: batman06 12/10/2007 at 11:20 AM

JC-

I was scrambling around LA trying to find a place to watch the fight before finally finding a suitable bar. You'd think more places around here would carry the fights!

Anyway, it was a little closer then I thought it was gonna be, but the more skilled guy definitely won. However, I wouldn't worry too much about Mayweather never losing (as long as he doesn't stay fake-retired)-- look at that welterweight division! Miguel Cotto! Kermit Cintron! Paul Williams! Antonio Margarito! Hell, even Shane Mosley! These are big, tough, strong welterweights. Don't forget, while Ricky is a rough-houser-- he was the smaller guy (he only had fought at 147 once before, and came into the fight at 145). When you couple that with the fact that he is slower, and probably less naturally talented, it was a recipe for disaster from the get-go! However, when Floyd gets in there with a guy like Cotto, size is certainly not going to be in his favor, as a matter of fact, size and strength will be a huge advantage on the other side. So despair not, dear Mr. Carnahan, and hope the pretty boy doesn't stay retired.

  Posted by: Wendy 12/10/2007 at 11:36 AM

Yeah, I heard about the fight results and thought of you since I knew you were watching. Oh well. Maybe they'll do that rematch. You can always hope.

Take care, okay?

Best Wishes, Myriada

  Posted by: Chris 12/10/2007 at 11:49 AM

Hate to say it because I wanted him to win...

... but Ricky was simply outclassed and was very lucky he didn't go down in round four.

  Posted by: Chaninder 12/10/2007 at 12:02 PM

As much as I hate Mayweather I can't go ahead and knock the way the man fights. He wins...and it seems like no one can beat him after 39 fights so you gotta give him loads of respect in relation to the sport.

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